{"id":21196,"date":"2015-10-26T08:07:40","date_gmt":"2015-10-26T00:07:40","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.chekyang.com\/musings\/?p=21196"},"modified":"2017-02-25T00:22:14","modified_gmt":"2017-02-24T16:22:14","slug":"the-minton-post-renovation-one-year-on-part-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.chekyang.com\/musings\/2015\/10\/26\/the-minton-post-renovation-one-year-on-part-2\/","title":{"rendered":"The Minton \u2013 Post Renovation One Year On \u2013 Part 2"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Continuing on a widely spaced thread on our Minton home, post-renovation one year on. The last post in the series is <a href=\"https:\/\/www.chekyang.com\/musings\/2015\/05\/31\/the-minton-post-renovation-one-year-on-part-1\/\">here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>If there is any one aspect of our home renovation that has not worked well, it&#8217;s been our choice of supplier for the LED downlights. We picked them up from a large supplier located in the Ubi area, and had them installed by our ID&#8217;s general electrician. As I recall it, the first units started failing barely 3 months into our moving in, and along the way, several more did. Our initial experiences of the LED downlights are <a href=\"https:\/\/www.chekyang.com\/musings\/2014\/02\/24\/the-minton-ideas-and-renovation-13-everything-electrical-i\/\">here<\/a>, and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.chekyang.com\/musings\/2014\/03\/02\/the-minton-ideas-and-renovation-15-everything-electrical-iii\/\">here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ll have to do an accurate tally of the units that failed, but here are the failure numbers off the top of my head:<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-21197\" src=\"https:\/\/www.chekyang.com\/musings\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/downlights.png\" alt=\"downlights\" width=\"530\" height=\"111\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.chekyang.com\/musings\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/downlights.png 625w, https:\/\/www.chekyang.com\/musings\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/downlights-300x63.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 530px) 100vw, 530px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>The 8 failures are over the 18 month stretch, and I think roughly split between the LED light emitting unit, and the driver unit. As I recall it, the first four failures (all 3-in-1s) occurred in the first year, and were exchanged without complaint at the warehouse. The remaining ones zonked out about this year &#8211; after their guarantee period &#8211; which meant we had to look for options.<\/p>\n<p>Clarifying our usage too: the lights are <em><strong>not<\/strong><\/em> heavily used. In fact, two of the dead units were in a part of the living hall and were rarely switched on. One of our Minton neighbors got their LED downlights from the same supplier and experienced failures of their 3-in-1 lights too.<\/p>\n<p>We scouted around for alternatives, and eventually settled on a Qoo10 supplier who has a new warehouse over in Woodlands. This supplier has a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.omeio.com\/\">web site<\/a> &#8211; which gave us a slight bit more confidence than the previous supplier which had nothing of this sort, though the web site still states their old Jurong warehouse address. We&#8217;ve had enough bad experiences with 3-in-1 types now, unfair as it might sound to tarnish all lights of this type because of one bad experience with a supplier. The new units, according to their supplier, have some components made in the US while assembly is in China.<\/p>\n<p>Pictures of the new units:<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_21198\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-21198\" style=\"width: 550px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-21198\" src=\"https:\/\/www.chekyang.com\/musings\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/blog-2015-minton-OM250770-led-lights.jpg\" alt=\"xxx\" width=\"550\" height=\"366\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.chekyang.com\/musings\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/blog-2015-minton-OM250770-led-lights.jpg 550w, https:\/\/www.chekyang.com\/musings\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/blog-2015-minton-OM250770-led-lights-300x200.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-21198\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The 6200K temperature of these Cool Daylight units meant that they are very slightly warmer than the units they are replacing. We ended up replacing all the 3-in-1 units in the study with these single-color types, and keeping the 3-in-1s that were still working as spares.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<figure id=\"attachment_21199\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-21199\" style=\"width: 550px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-21199\" src=\"https:\/\/www.chekyang.com\/musings\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/blog-2015-minton-OM250776-led-lights.jpg\" alt=\"xxx\" width=\"550\" height=\"563\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.chekyang.com\/musings\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/blog-2015-minton-OM250776-led-lights.jpg 550w, https:\/\/www.chekyang.com\/musings\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/blog-2015-minton-OM250776-led-lights-293x300.jpg 293w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-21199\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Output watt is the same at 12W, and size too. The panel design though is different &#8211; though one would have to be looking hard up at the ceiling lights to tell!<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<figure id=\"attachment_21200\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-21200\" style=\"width: 550px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-21200\" src=\"https:\/\/www.chekyang.com\/musings\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/blog-2015-minton-OM250777-led-lights.jpg\" alt=\"xxx\" width=\"550\" height=\"341\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.chekyang.com\/musings\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/blog-2015-minton-OM250777-led-lights.jpg 550w, https:\/\/www.chekyang.com\/musings\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/blog-2015-minton-OM250777-led-lights-300x186.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-21200\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The output here at 24-48V DC is slightly higher than the old driver types of 21-45V DC though rated current is identical at 300mA.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>This time round too, we picked up spares so that we can replace them on our own if it comes to that later. Funnily; these replacement lights at about $19 each cost less than the old ones at $28. Our neighbor &#8211; who shared the similarly bad experiences with the old LED lights &#8211; helped us install the replacements, and judging from what&#8217;s involved, I&#8217;m fairly confident that I&#8217;d be able to do the same later if I need to. Oddly though &#8211; the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.chekyang.com\/musings\/2014\/03\/18\/the-minton-ideas-and-renovation-28-day-19\/\">traumatic experience<\/a> our ID&#8217;s general electrician had last year when installing the LEDs seem unfounded. Our neighbor was able to mount\/dismount the old lights with relative ease.<\/p>\n<p>Oh well. Hope these new ones work better this time round. And if not, at least we have spares to replace several more.:)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Continuing on a widely spaced thread on our Minton home, post-renovation one year on. The last post in the series is here. If there is any one aspect of our home renovation that has not worked well, it&#8217;s been our<\/p>\n<div class=\"entry-read-more\"><a class=\"read-more-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.chekyang.com\/musings\/2015\/10\/26\/the-minton-post-renovation-one-year-on-part-2\/\">Read More<span class=\"cleanwp-sr-only\">  The Minton \u2013 Post Renovation One Year On \u2013 Part 2<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":21197,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[6,526],"tags":[515,337],"class_list":["post-21196","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-at-home","category-new-home","tag-minton","tag-renovation","wpcat-6-id","wpcat-526-id"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/www.chekyang.com\/musings\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/downlights.png","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.chekyang.com\/musings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/21196","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.chekyang.com\/musings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.chekyang.com\/musings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.chekyang.com\/musings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.chekyang.com\/musings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=21196"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.chekyang.com\/musings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/21196\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.chekyang.com\/musings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/21197"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.chekyang.com\/musings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=21196"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.chekyang.com\/musings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=21196"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.chekyang.com\/musings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=21196"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}